DGT CH1 Damperkit

[BeAi79]

Hi DNANO drivers all out there

I drive since the dnanos arrived europe, i was long unlucky about the existing damperkits, because there are not that exacte that i wanna have as product. About a year ago i build my first damperkit with a magnet on my aston martin. I put a lot time in diffrent ideas and there possibilities. It was hart to find the right magnet and the rigth magnet force. I was lucky when i drive the fastest laptime on our course in switzerland. I like the challenge and i dont give up to push my own damper. Now i started a new moment in my live, i create the 5. Generation of magnet damper kit, and i chreate my own brand called: DGT

Under my brand DGT: Promote we now my 5.Generation Damperkit for selling as tuningpart. DGT: CH1 Damperplate

[BeAi79]

The positive argues for my product arent the magnet, this was a lucky found, the gadgets are:

i wanna have a abrasion free damper
an adjustable rear stabilizer bar
a free choiceable rear axle balance setting possibility
no more holes in the beautifully bodys, that i must make for the dampers

[BeAi79]

Lets have a lock how deep i build my baby. With that deep, its easier to move and remove the accupacks. Also an argue for it. Thats an other answer for that i created allready the 5.generation of this idea, i reduse the material and set them down to the maximum as possible...

[BeAi79]

No more holes in the bodys!

Lets have a look on my old 962. Now i have a last function for the hole in my bodys... You can see that my Damper need no Holes! Have a look please. There are enough space for. And im so glad that i can show you that as producer, i found a clean solution. No fast cheap but bad solution.

As usual for our country: MADE IN SWITZERLAND Top Qualitiy and only the best perfomance and no compromisses...

Jes Baby

[BeAi79]

Setup Settings:

Its possible to change the magnet level, for more or less magnet force. I use a differential greese between the damper plates.

my important tuning idea is in the under plate. its possible to change the angels to the side and to the front of the car. so you can change the different pressure on every single tire of the chassis!

its very important that the rear tires have the same pressure on it. To become a nutral gripp balance.

I find out that cars with short chassis must have a little lift up the differential side, and cars with long chassis need to have more pressure on the differential side. it s possible to realised bougth settings... The Kit i compatible for all dnanos with middle or rear engines on all sizes!

Take a few minutes to finde the exacte settings for the ballance and the magnet force. They two settings are important. I drive now the ultra high speed engine with a DGT CH1 Damper without any more wheigth on the cars...

[mrnanotrax]

thanks for posting this.... quick question.... how does one adjust the mount for various wheelbases?

[KChinn]

Awesome. Nice to see people innovating for these cars. This is great to have more options available. Thanks for sharing.

[BeAi79]

for the various wheelbases? smile... that was a realy hart work for it... i chreatet the axactly length to the two plates that they work on all lengths... The magnet interesting not where he is exactly... if the unter plate is little bit whiter or shorter... it works on all length...

the screws for the under plate must be always in the front, but this stands in the short prescription in the set...

by the middle motor chassis: the under plate is behind the engine
by the rear motor chassis: is the under plate on top of the engine

Important is that the two plates have a exact parallel contact at the beginning... and use a grease between the to plates... oil is to thin i use diffball grease form tamija...

[bcc1955]

Pretty cool idea. I am struggling a bit to fully understand it so I have a couple questions.

1) I assume the magnets are positioned to be attractive and the system does use some abrasion between the fiberglass contact plates, right?

2) You are modifying the strength and tilt of the bottom magnet to control the damping forces generated?

3) The side to side damping with this design is not progressive (but could be altered to be progressive)? Is the plane of the magnets kept constant somehow for motions that tilt the axle?

Ordering info?

[mrnanotrax]

Ordering info?

i think it would better for you to try the prototype i received and give your feedback here later... i'm not much on analysis and i'd prefer the comments to be objective - which i can count on you for. i'll give it to ya the next time you roll into the shop

[BeAi79]

Pretty cool idea. I am struggling a bit to fully understand it so I have a couple questions.

1) I assume the magnets are positioned to be attractive and the system does use some abrasion between the fiberglass contact plates, right?

2) You are modifying the strength and tilt of the bottom magnet to control the damping forces generated?

3) The side to side damping with this design is not progressive (but could be altered to be progressive)? Is the plane of the magnets kept constant somehow for motions that tilt the axle?

Ordering info?

1) thats right, but the magnet has an other positive function, if it is straigt on the middleline, he press constant. But if you push it out of the middle line, he has a much more force to come on back to the middle line. ( like a stabilisation function ) it was hard to finde the right magnet and the right abrasion between the fiberglass contacts... How big the area is is much important... For the Dampingforce are to things important, the contact area, and the force of this. And the grease between.

2) you can change the force if you press the magnet little more out of the upper plate, so when the distance between magnet and under plate will be higher, the magnet push less, than if the magnet are all in the upper plate. The magnet is only pressed in the upper plate so you can move it to diffrent position in the high... But the best results are by 1mm out for 10 shore tires and all in for foam tires... With the angels by the under plate you can make two things: first you can fine balances the rear axle (this is very important) and you can help to push the sping litte more out. The magnet still wanna have a full contact between the two plates, so he lift up the rear axle of push it out to find the maximum area of contact... Its only little but it enougth to finetune the DNANOS, like i never have made before... It was impossible with the atomic and the kyosho ones... With the faster engines ultra high speed im now sure this one as damperkit is a must. My old Murci, with ultra high speed an 6 gramm plump and the atomic plate was over, now with the DGT and on RCP is possible to drive the fastest engine without plump and the car is still stable, no more rollover...

3) The big secret are the under plate... Sure is the caracteristic progressive... The magnet make this with a magnetic phenomen. When he leave the center he push more and more force to come back in the center... And thats the best Way to find a linear spring caracteristic with a second complet seperate curve stabilisation, when the magnet leave the center... This phenomen is exactly the same if the springs are all in or our... I am sure that this is only possible with magnetforce... When i create other not parallel plates then are the magnetforce not constant, but for a clean setup, you must have a constant magnet force. Trust it works. With the other under plates does i take a trick, to give a bigger working field for the magnet, so it will be progressiv wehn the magnet leaves the unter plate... And this is not usual... smile...

[jesse8671]

This sounds kinda cool. I can't wait to see what people think of it.

[BeAi79]

me too... in germany have buy some in a secret mission... one and one and one... and nobody post something... but they still order more so... it can be bad... no i drive all my dnanos now are these 11 pieces... only with the DGT CH1 Damper... I was driving today: With the 962 Porsche and he is no stabil, with the DGT one... Before it was not drivable at the limits... no it makes much fun...

[bcc1955]

BeAi79,

Looks to be a system with potential so i hope you keep at it. I was only able to set it up and give it a try for a very short while before leaving Thailand. The problem I had was that the mounting holes for the bottom plate were too fragile (probably 0.5mm to the edge). Unfortunately, this lead to breakage at this point and loss of function. Obviously this can easily be made more robust. Also for others to properly assess your design you may want to include a sample of the grease you are using. I tried it with some 50,000 thick oil. Perhaps that aggravated the breakage problem. To commercialize this I would like to see a more robust means of fixing and adjusting the plane of the bottom plate. But that is just my 2 bits from a very limited trial.

Goodluck,
Brian

[BeAi79]

Hi bcc 1955

Thanks a lot for your feedback, today qon have wrote a big feedback... i take the inputs in a new version up... i have a next generation at home and i will correct these negative points... but i havent hit any of my plates... i drive all in my cars... its a place problem why i make this things that small because they must have place in all type of bodys.. the long and the shortest cars... and the cars with mm or rm are a extra complicated thing...the area for a damping system under the bodys is realy flat... but iam better with the DGT... it needs some time to find the exacte nutral point and then you have a realy nutral car. One other problem is a more stabil seat for the under plate... i cant do it better only with 2 screws... i have only the two holes from the original motor chassis....and the under plate must be flexible to chan change the angels... i still thinking about these inputs... and hope that i find a better solution... for me: when i find the nutral setup for a car... i stabalized the under plate with second glue pionts an at every screw and one from the bottom of the under plate and than its fix... an when i change the settings i can easy broke the glue points and change the setting easylie...

[BeAi79]

Hi DNANO isties...

I restarted with produce a new damping system... The next generation of magnet damping system, i changed few little things that i have learned with the DGT CH1 types of damping plates...

Now with the new ones (available in two weeks probably)

its easyer to set or reset the magnet high without any tool
i redesigned the parts that they have more material, more stabile (but until jet, no client have broken one from the old generation)
i uses now every mm under all chassis now to have the maximum place to have a clean working damping area...
this generation will work now on all chassis.
and the new one are a little lower than the DGT CH1 ones was...

i have had an idea to custom the plates but the guy who must create all my ideas in the cnc software disagree with my ideas, so i must have to cancel the bling bling idea, this dampingsystem is in the same art created than the old ones, only the technical part is realisatet... the optical tuning of this part that i have must canceled...

but also a good news is that the price will be the same... as the old one has have got...

i thanks forward to all clients who deside to buy my brand... and if anyone have a question, feel free to contact me... Thanks... and lot more fun in the DNANO theme...

[BeAi79]

Hi Guys...

News from my side... a new Damping System is born... but more under the new Type of Damper... the CH2...

[mrnanotrax]

i saw your post on FB...looks nice & easier to work with. once again, good luck with the project